Frank Chapman is Executive Director of the National Alliance Against Racist and Political Repression. Hatem Abudayyeh is National Chair of the U.S. Palestinian Community Network. They join us from Chicago to discuss their recent meeting with Naledi Pandor, South Africa’s Minister of International Relations and Cooperation. In that role she has overseen South Africa’s charge of genocide against Israel at the International Court of Justice. Frank and Hatem will talk about their meeting with her, and the solidarity movement with Palestine.